Being on the right side of history is important.
When there are huge global forces moving in a certain direction, it’s crucial that a country and the Establishment of the country recognize this – and do something about it. In terms of the way large corporations avoid tax, the world is moving in a certain direction. People will look back in years to come and be astounded at the way corporations were able to play countries off each other in order to avoid tax.
The world is moving towards a level playing field in the area of corporate tax. Earlier this year, US President Barack Obama described American companies that use foreign countries to avoid US taxes as “corporate deserters”. This is serious language.
Earlier this week, the OECD published a paper that will form the basis of the next G20 meeting about multinational tax planning. It plans to eliminate the ability of corporations to avoid tax by “shifting” profits to low tax countries.
The OECD estimates that countries lose $100-240bn annually from multinationals using tax shelters to avoid tax.
The reason for this change is quite simple. Governments need the tax base to maintain a proper functioning economy. The multinationals use the same roads as everyone else. Their employees use the same hospitals and schools as everyone else. Ultimately, all the functioning areas of a normal society, from the police force and the transport infrastructure to environmental regulations, are paid for by tax.
All of these things make the relevant country a better place to live and invest and if the corporations aren’t paying their share, someone else has to pay for them.
In Ireland, we have a lot to gain from these new moves towards tax harmonization because we have so much at stake. For example, multinational corporations are supposed to pay 12.5pc tax in Ireland – which is already a great deal for them.
However, latest figures from the American Bureau of Economic Statistics reveal that American multinational companies make $100bn profit in Ireland. That means they should pay $12.5bn in tax; in fact, they pay only $4bn total tax. This means that $8.5bn is being avoided, even taking into account Ireland’s already very low corporate tax rate. This is a lot of money.
To better understand just how much of a good deal the multinationals are getting here, let’s look at some more figures.
Did you know that American corporations make on average $970,000 profit per employee in Ireland every year?
This is an amazingly high figure – making Ireland the most profitable place in the world for US multinationals.
However, these same multinationals pay $25,000 tax per employee. Even if they were to double their tax paid here, they’d still be making $920,000 profit per employee in Ireland.
So it is not difficult to see how we would benefit from a global level playing field.
The second major reason that authorities are clamping down on corporations is because it doesn’t feel right that, in an age of massive wealth inequality, capital is taxed much more leniently than labour.
If you depend on wages for your income – as the vast majority do – you pay significant amounts of income tax. In Ireland, the marginal rate is above 50pc. Yet if you are a company whose income comes from profit, you pay 4pc!
Such disparities drive up the value of the shares of these companies, but in the main, it is other companies or rich people who own company shares!
So the tax disparities are driving a wedge between those people who depend on wages for income (the majority) and those who depend on assets for income (the minority).
Consider for a moment the Irish worker who is working at a multinational this morning. His marginal income will be taxed at 50pc. In contrast, the corporation he works for will have its income taxed effectively at 4pc.
Why should the worker pay 12 times more tax than the company?
The third big reason for these historical shifts against tax avoidance is that America needs its cash. This is why Obama referred to corporations who use aggressive tax avoidance strategies as “corporate deserters”. When the American government cloaks the discussion on tax in patriotic terms, you know they are serious.
Now all this is a significant opportunity for Ireland.
There’s nothing to be afraid of. However, to benefit most from this global shift, we have to be part of the conversation.
Ireland needs its own position. We should begin a discussion with the multinationals. We have had a brilliant experience with them for years. They make good money here and in turn provide 100,000 jobs, which is about 7pc of the workforce. In terms of the capital base of the country, the multinationals have transformed the place, bringing in know-how and networks that would never have otherwise been constructed in Ireland.
There is absolutely no reason to be confrontational. Typically, when you want to start a serious conversation about change with someone, you begin by speaking the same language.
You do not start by shouting or laying out conditions. The Irish State and the multinationals should regard themselves as being on the same side for the purposes of this next phase of the relationship.
We want to avoid them leaving. If we have a level global playing field, where would they go? They’d hardly get a better deal anywhere else. But that said, most of what the multinationals do here is services and services can move more quickly than manufacturing.
On the other hand, the multinationals are happy here. They make great money. The society is stable and, like an old marriage, we’ve got used to each other’s peculiarities.
Maybe now it’s time to introduce a new element to the relationship. Why not embed them deeper here, by for example asking the likes of Google, Apple or HP to fund and staff a new engineering university? After all, they have the best engineers in the world. They could do this easily.
This would provide brilliant graduates for them and we could get world-class infrastructure for free.
There could also be a stipulation that 25pc of graduates in these new schools have to come from deprived areas – making the multinationals agents of change.
This is just one of many ways we can use the big shift in global attitudes towards tax and multinationals to our advantage. Let’s not bury our heads in the sand and start having the conversation, and make our own suggestions rather than have someone else make the decisions for us.
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David,
Always enjoy your articles.
I stand to be corrected but I’d like to make the following points:
The BEA (Bureau of Economic Analysis) uses a different interpretation of data on FDI than the CSO (look at equity, reinvested earnings and exclude other capital). MNES such as Google, Facebook, Apple have muddied the water in recent times.
Analysis by Revenue (Keith Walsh) in 2006, 2010, 2014 shows that the majority of Ireland based MNEs pay pretty much the given corporate tax rate.
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Hi David,
An excellent article once again driving home the very important message about the different treatment of capital and labour.
Clearly your message IS being heard thank god;
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2015/1008/733219-lidl-living-wage/
I don’t think central planning like the 25% requirement is a good idea even if well intentioned.
Look what Mrs Edna is doing now David. Paying builders to sell houses below the market value which will only drive the price HIGHER;
http://www.independent.ie/business/budget/sweeteners-for-builders-who-sell-new-homes-at-less-than-market-value-31592593.html
Central planning madness or what?
Michael.
Before we start that conversation we should ensure that the people sitting at our side of the conference table will represent us, not be the same politicians-on-the-make we have had in the past. If the Americans can invoke patriotism so can we. We have something to offer, not the old inherited “beal bocht”. We have a talented workforce, despite the shortcomings of our Church-dominated education system. When I was a student in St. Nathy’s College, Ballaghadereen in the ‘50s before Donogh O’Malley’s controversial announcement of free second-level education in 1966, we had a continuous stream of highly trained recruiting priests… Read more »
Hi all,
Is there any plans for any of us to meet up in Kilkenny this year?
Michael.
The downside of having so many multinationals in Ireland has been discussed before, not least the continued reliance on them for “easy” job creation with little or no attempts to encourage replace them with indigenous industries. One other aspect that I would love to see analysed is the impact of these multinationals on the current accommodation crisis. PayPal recently asked staff to rent rooms to new colleagues in an attempt to address their problems. Theses MNCs may recruit 1000s of staff but as “service” companies it is primarily for low level skilled staff recruited from countries of the language required.… Read more »
“The reason for this change is quite simple. Governments need the tax base to maintain a proper functioning economy.”
No it doesn’t. Taxes for Revenue is an obsolete concept and has been for decades.
The tax take has nothing to do with what a Government can do for its people (and in the Irish case we’re talking about the European parliament and government, not the Irish one – which is merely a European town council in the Euro area doing what they are told).
The issue with corporations is merely a distributional discussion: should corporations pay less tax than labour.
If you want to pay less taxes then have your own currency issued debt free from treasury instead of the debt based interest laden fiat you currently use.
Income taxes could be abolished.
The Trans Pacific Partnership has just been approved by 12 nations. Very few have any information about what is included as all negotiations were in secret. It is apparent that corporations will now be able to sue states who pass legislation that impede corporate decisions and profits. Corporatism rules. The decisions of your local representative will no longer matter wit. The banker/corporate elites will rule the world. Individual and state sovereignty have been sold or given away. Welcome to modern fascism. Welcome to what you already see. Wars, financial repression and political impotency are the near future. As you see,… Read more »
I’m a bit surprised at this article, really. We’re not really talking about tax at all, we’re talking about incentives. If there was such a law – which we should think very carefully about in terms of the presidence – there are many other ways in which a country can attract such inward investment. All they would have to do is provide, at a steep discount, anything else the companies would otherwise would have to pay for. Indeed, in these days of everyone nodding sagely at the idea of negative interest rates, they could provide negative costs for anything: housing,… Read more »
“Germany: Bundesbank releases gold reserve details: The FT cited a Bundesbank inventory report of every single bar amounting to 3,384 tonnes of gold worth around €107B, stored in vaults in Frankfurt, London, Paris and New York. The article noted the move to release details is the latest by the central bank, which is in a process of moving gold back to Germany. It cited Bundesbank executive board member Carl-Ludwig Thiele who said by 2020 at the latest, half of Germany’s gold reserves will be stored in domestically.” Posted on lemetropolecafe. There is still no transparency as the gold accounts cannot… Read more »
1 in 4 of staff in Facebook, Google, Linkedin based in Dublin are Irish. Where are the apprenticeships/starter positions for Irish people ?
No wonder rents are back @ 2007 levels. Where will they be in 2020? More expensive than London? At least the latter has an economy a similar size as Poland, GDP per head in the european capital is on a par with LA and New York.
Global Recession Coming – Even “Powerhouse” Germany And UK Slow “Dramatically”
http://www.gold-eagle.com/article/global-recession-coming-%E2%80%93-even-%E2%80%9Cpowerhouse%E2%80%9D-germany-and-uk-slow-%E2%80%9Cdramatically%E2%80%9D
Volatility in the base metal commodities has seen up spikes of 4-10% in prices. There is an overall gain in prices the last 2-4 weeks. Is cash looking for a safe home in real assets and this the start of a commodity lift off. It could be the continuous and expected flood of QE from around the world is more inflationary than reported. IMHO. Heasdline at Midas du Metropole October 9 – $1156.30 up $11.60 – Silver $15.81 up 5 cents Gold Breaks Out / HUI Keeps Moving Higher “THERE IS NO MEANS OF AVOIDING THE FINAL COLLAPSE OF A… Read more »
Funny meme after the first Ireland – Poland match (translation: a hangover after the draw):
https://www.google.ie/search?q=Polska+Irlandia+mecz+najlepsze+memy+demotywatory&biw=1255&bih=852&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI1-2ElOC3yAIVRl4UCh00bAMM#imgrc=BTxG6ANDX4MeFM%3A
And on a more serious note:
http://linkis.com/9igtx
Coldblow (II) “David went onto the Late Late at the time to argue in favour of opening our borders – not in so many words but that is the end result.” David comes across as someone with a good heart. But there is a puzzling inconsistency in his writing. He proposed a discussion (starting from his Generation Game) about the immigration into Ireland. He was is of an opinion that this may put pressure on wages, schools and houses. Indeed, they estimate that 3,000.000 people have left Poland alone, out of which 2,000.000 stayed abroad (the rest doing seasonal jobs… Read more »
“Eh lads, did it never occur to you that ISIS might be just talking shit to put the willies up you all?” It did occur to me. They might be talking shit. The problem is that they are talking that shit from a position of mosques in places like London and Copenhagen, saying that every woman who does not dress like a radical Islamist is a whore and wants to be rape. And, someone is doing the be-headings. Ok, maybe some of that is a job of secret service (do not quote me on that one), maybe not, but some… Read more »
I had to check what that Kood Aid is (is it any good?). You would be surprised, but my drink of choice this week is organic Cider Vinegar Mother (excellent for the nasty chest infection I caught washing windows at my home). I do not smoke, I almost do not drink and I watch Fox News very rarely – only the debate and Stossel,who has views similar to yours. “if the Yanks, Brits and Russians etc. would stop interfering in their affairs and bombing the hell out of their homelands, that’s exactly what they would do – stay home.” Of… Read more »
I had to check what that Kood Aid is (is it any good?). You would be surprised, but my drink of choice this week is organic Cider Vinegar Mother (excellent for the nasty chest infection I caught washing windows at my home). I do not smoke, I almost do not drink and I watch Fox News very rarely – only the debate and Stossel,who has views similar to yours. “if the Yanks, Brits and Russians etc. would stop interfering in their affairs and bombing the hell out of their homelands, that’s exactly what they would do – stay home.” Of… Read more »
As for tax, which is what David’s article is actuallt about – let me be brief. I don’t pay tax. I realised many moons ago that taxes are a scam, especially those that pay the wages of thieving, lying, corrupt politician – so I refuse to pay them. I walk the walk, I don’t just talk the talk like most of the goody two-shoes wafflers on this blog. I’ll leave it to your imagination as to th actual mechanics of not paying any taxes (I keep EVERY SINGLE penny I earn through my own Herculean work efforts). If Bono and… Read more »
Great article and hopefully it will get things moving. I said something similar in an article to the time in 2010 but used more charged language: http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/increasing-corporation-tax-1.678464 Bit surprised by: “There could also be a stipulation that 25pc of graduates in these new schools have to come from deprived areas – making the multinationals agents of change.” Such a stipulation would completely undermine the credibility of a university. I studied engineering in DCU and people came from all over. It’s not elitist. I’ve worked with good engineers from Ballyfermot and Tallaght. You don’t need to have a math teacher as… Read more »